The Ravenry: Week of 1/25/16

Salutations, once again!

As you may or may not know, Wars and Politics of Ice and Fire has its own Tumblr page (as well as its own Twitter and Facebook pages).  Even more excitingly,  we here at the blog have partnered with ASOIAF University to answer questions about A Song of Ice and Fire.  We – that is, SomethingLikeaLawyer and I – take the text-based questions submitted to us, write up thoughtful, text-based answers, and publish these answers on the Tumblr.

Another productive week at Wars and Politics of Ice and Fire Headquarters. The Hand wrote some fantastic lengthy metas this week, from the transition of Westeros away from feudalism, to an overhaul of the levy system, to the ideological division between Quellon Greyjoy and his four surviving sons. I got to talk about one of my least favorite houses in a strangely positive (well, kind of) way, and got to consider a bunch of historical parallels, from Margaret of Anjou to Elizabeth of York to Simon de Montfort. You lovelies keep us busy, and we’re eternally grateful.

So, without further ado, here’s The Ravenry for the week of January 25:


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5 responses to “The Ravenry: Week of 1/25/16

  1. NFriel, I like your post about Dark Sister. Allow me to expand on it: Dark Sister is almost certainly Longclaw. I recently brought up a few thoughts on the matter in the comments below this post of mine. I plan to expand on them soon.

    The basic gist is, as you said, Bloodraven probably took it to the wall. (Actually, I also believe Bloodraven *wanted* to go to the wall, but that’s a long story in itself.) It came into the possession of Jeor, and Jeor made up a bunch of bull about its history. (I also suspect Jeor is not who he says he is and that House Mormont is quite young – another long story.) Jeor knowingly gave a Jon a Targaryen sword, and knows some secrets about Jon’s true past. His private discussions with Jon strongly indicate this. Bloodraven speaks to Jeor through the raven, or at least observes, and that raven sure does like to perch on Longclaw, doesn’t it?

    So, in a way, Jon did indeed end up with Dark Sister as you desired. Quite fitting.

    • nfriel

      The swords aren’t the same size though. Longclaw is a “bastard”, hand-and-a-half sword, while Visenya’s blade was a slim longsword made to fit a woman’s hand and smaller frame.

    • I see SomethingLikeALawyer also said, “If Bloodraven was aware of the danger of the Others, he would have done more to bolster the power of the Watch in order to prevent it.”

      I agree, and I think he did. I suspect that Bloodraven showed up again in the upcoming fourth D&E story and witnessed the sorry state of the Night’s Watch under Sleepy Jack. He may have been disguised as Red Raven. He probably had a part to play in the Stark succession after Willam’s death, supporting Lady Melantha Blackwood’s son. (Was Melantha a niece or daughter of Melissa, Bloodraven’s mother?)

      When he later went to the wall, he took many Raven’s Teeth with him as well as Maester Aemon. This was all probably a deliberate effort to strengthen the Wall, and may have even been done with Aegon V’s blessing. Later, I believe he coordinated efforts with Jeor by communicating through the raven.

      I don’t know if any of this has anything to do with the Blackfyres, but I don’t think it’s unlikely.

  2. Lecen

    I have a question to anyone interested in answering it: are we going to see other dragons in the main series? Any chance we might be surprised and see the Others riding ice dragons? What about other fire dragons?

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