The Complete Notablog ASOIAF Resource

Intro

Notablog

George RR Martin’s Notablog is the subject of much analysis and scrutiny. This nearly eleven year-old blog on livejournal has been the subject of GRRM’s thoughts and musings for many years. However, most of the blog is not focused on ASOIAF. The parts that are focused on ASOIAF are exceedingly interesting as they provide windows into how GRRM writes ASOIAF, development of plot points and other fascinating windows into the world of ice and fire.

So, here you have it: the complete Notablog ASOIAF Resource. I’ve reviewed every notablog entry and GRRM comment in his notablog. So, here, you’ll find every single time GRRM talked about ASOIAF both in blog posts or comments. I’ve grouped the posts by subjects such as:

  • General Info
  • A Feast for Crows
  • A Dance with Dragons
  • The Winds of Winter
  • Dunk and Egg
  • The World of Ice and Fire
  • Game of Thrones
  • Odds and Ends

My intent for this resource is to serve as the So Spake Martin for all of GRRM’s notablog entries and comments that are related to ASOIAF. I’ve bolded the entries I think are the most interesting (But opinions vary!)

So, without further ado, let’s delve into everything!

General Info

A Feast for Crows

A Dance with Dragons

  • GRRM talks about the Hugos, but says that A Dance with Dragons is his number 1 priority. – Remember the Hugo, 3/7/2006
  • GRRM begins revising Jon chapters for A Dance with Dragons to make them stronger:

    I have finally been able to settle down and get back into A DANCE WITH DRAGONS. That’s where most of my time and energy has gone of late. For the last week or so I have been back at the Wall with Jon Snow and the men of the Night’s Watch. Jon, I think, will be one of the main beneficiaries of my splitting A FEAST FOR CROWS in two. I will have more room to deal with Jon and Stannis and the wildlings and the rest, which will allow me to flesh out their storylines more and bring them to a better resolution… but it’s more than that. Although I had “completed” something on the order of five Jon chapters before deciding to divide the book, I was never really happy with them, and rereading them now has reinforced my feelings. They need to be much stronger, and I believe I see how to do that now. Sometimes putting things on the back burner can work wonders. That where the muse lives (or the moose, as Parris sometimes calls her). – This, That and the Other Thing, 3/28/2006

  • GRRM works on a new POV character set in Old Volantis (Ed Note: Probably Quentyn Martell). – Home Alone, 5/13/2006
  • GRRM reports that other projects to include home renovations have caused any writing for ADWD to “be a wash.” – Off to Worldcon, 8/17/2006
  • A Dance with Dragons is GRRM’s No 1 priority, and he’ll be pushing hard to get it out by the end of the year. – Home for the Holidays, 10/17/2006
  • A Dance with Dragons will not be done by the end of 2006, but GRRM is going to use the time in between conventions to work on it. – Good News, Bad News, 12/5/2006
  • GRRM realizes that half of A Feast for Crows was out as a sample or read at a convention and doesn’t want to do the same for A Dance with Dragons. – Wild Cards Returns, 12/11/2006
  • GRRM revises an older chapter, starts a new chapter and makes edits to other chapters for ADWD.

    I had a good day’s work on A DANCE WITH DRAGONS yesterday.It’s one o’clock in the afternoon as I write this, and I’m just working on my morning cup of coffee, still half-conscious. One of the things that happens when I’m writing well is that all my normal schedules go out the window. I vanish into Westeros, and lose all track of time in the real world.Which is what happened yesterday. I finished an old chapter that had been partially written months ago, did a lot of work on a newer chapter that I’d decided to add to the early part of the book, revised a couple of other sections, made some structural changes to the outline… in other words, I spent the whole day at DANCE. By the time I noticed that it had gotten dark outside, it was already close to ten o’clock at night. I worked a little more, finally signed off, went across the street and had a midnight supper, but I was too wound up to go to sleep… which is also something that happens when the book has me in its grip. So I watched a little television that TIVO had caught for me earlier (oh, I love my TIVO), then read some of the latest Bernard Cornwell (excellent, as always), and finally went to bed around three. And even then I did not go straight to sleep, but tossed and turned for a long while, my mind full of Dany and Jon and Q (Ed note: Quentyn Martell) and so forth and so on.It was the most productive day I’ve had in months, at least where DANCE is concerned

    I need more days like this. Lots more days like this. That’s how DANCE will get done. I have lots of writer friends who can turn it off and on at will, who can live their lives and do their work as well, even work on one project in the morning and switch to an entirely different project in the afternoon… but that’s never worked for me. When it’s going well, my writing tends to swallow me. And when “the world is too much with us,” well, that always throws me off my game. – A Good Day’s Dancing, 4/21/2007

  • GRRM’s good writing spell for ADWD ends. – This and That and t’other Thing, 4/27/2007
  • Writing for ADWD is going much slower than anticipated, but he’s completed a troublesome chapter. However, he’s considering cancelling his appearance at WorldCon in order to finish ADWD. – The Only Living Boy in New York, 6/25/2007
  • GRRM reads the ADWD Prologue (Varamyr), but after receiving feedback decides that he needs to revise the chapter a bit:

    I had a reading at the convention, and decided to read the newly-completed prologue from A DANCE WITH DRAGONS. I’ve been struggling with this particular chapter off and on for years (not continuously, of course, when a chapter gives me as much trouble as this one has, I tend to put it aside, move on and write something else, and come back to it later with fresh eyes), writing and rewriting it, moving chunks of it around, trying different structures. There’s a lot of flashbacks in the chapter — not just one flashback, but more like four, each to a different time in the viewpoint character’s life — and integrating those with each other and with the present action has proved to be a bitch and a half. I finally did manage to get the ducks all in a row, however, so I thought I’d see how it went over.FWIW, I have always found convention readings to be very valuable, especially when I’m doing a chapter than I’ve never read before. No matter how many times you go over your work on a computer screen, somehow mistakes still slip past you… but when you’re reading aloud, they leap right up into your face, screaming and spraying spittle. Typos, missing words, double words, tortured syntax, clunky dialogue, you name it. I always try to keep a pen on hand, so I can mark up my reading copy as I go.And sometimes you see bigger problems too, as I did in this case. The audience seemed to like the chapter well enough, which pleased me. I talked to some of the BWB about it afterward, and was glad to hear that it mostly worked. There are still problems, though. A couple of awkward transitions, a false step and double beat in the middle, maybe too much repetition. Yes, I have reshuffled certain sections of the prologue half a dozen times already, but at the reading it became clear to that I need to look at the sequencing of the flashbacks yet again. I may be close, but I’m not there year. So that’s one of the things I’ve been doing since returning home: polishing, trimming, and restructuring the bloody prologue one more time. For the last time, I hope… but really, who knows? – Back from Indianapolis, 7/11/2007

  • GRRM expresses strong frustration with fans complaining that ADWD is unfinished. – GRRM Comment, Back from Indianapolis, 7/11/2007
  • GRRM finishes revising the ADWD Prologue. – Busy Week, 7/17/2007
  • GRRM still working on ADWD with a gif of a writer committing suicide against his keyboard. – A Dance with Dragons, 8/29/2007
  • GRRM is sad at missing WorldCon to “finish” ADWD. – Missing Worldcon, 9/1/2007
  • GRRM is writing a lot of Tyrion chapters. – Highs and Lows, 10/22/2007
  • GRRM talks why the writing is slow for ADWD. More importantly, he talks about a Tyrion chapter in which he meets the Shrouded Lord. He ends up deleting this chapter.

    I am not working “only sporadically” on DANCE. But it’s not simple equation: x many hours does not necessarily produce X many pages. Oh, sure, some writers can do that. Not me.For me, especially on this book, there’s a lot of rewriting (and restructuring) involved. I write a chapter, sometimes several, decide later it isn’t working, go back and rewrite and cut it all out.These are aspects of the creative process that are NOT FOR PUBLIC VIEW. I am wrestling with my story, my characters, and my muse, and that’s one wrestling match you won’t see on Pay Per View.Someday I will die, and I hope you’re right and it’s thirty years from now. When that happens, maybe my heirs will decide to publish a book of fragments and deleted chapters, and you’ll all get to read about Tyrion’s meeting with the Shrouded Lord. It’s a swell, spooky, evocative chapter, but you won’t read it in DANCE. It took me down a road I decided I did not want to travel, so I went back and ripped it out. So, unless I change my mind again, it’s going the way of the draft of LORD OF THE RINGS where Tolkien has Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippin reach the Prancing Pony and meet… a weatherbeaten old hobbit ranger named “Trotter.”

    And that’s about as much as I’m going to say on this subject. Which is probably too much. I guarantee you, I will now get a bunch of letters from those who want to read this deleted chapter. (No. Thank you, but no). – GRRM comment, Notablog, Highs and Lows, 10/23/2007

  • GRRM reads the ADWD Prologue at the World Fantasy Convention, likes it a lot better this go-around. – Home from WFC, 11/16/2007
  • GRRM is still writing Tyrion chapters, finishes one and then cryptically decides that he’s going to write Tyrion out of the scene entirety. (Ed. Note: Guessing Jon Connington’s “Lost Lord” chapter?)

    Finished a Tyrion chapter yesterday, one I’ve been struggling with for months. Made a major change to the end of the chapter, one I think works much better than what I had before.Also tackled another Tyrion chapter that had been giving me trouble, mainly by ripping Tyrion out of the scene entirely and rewriting the whole damn thing from another point of view. Not quite done with that one yet, but I think it will work better as well. However, I am keeping the old Tyrion POV version of the same events on my computer, just in case I change my mind later and decide to go back. – This, That, and t’Other Thing, 12/12/2007

  • ADWD is not done, but GRRM will put up a new sample on his website at the end of the year. – Goodbye, 2007, 12/31/2007
  • GRRM is writing Dany and Bran chapters. He finds Bran chapters very hard to write. – Another Month Rushes By, 1/27/2008
  • Marc Fishman will illustrate a limited illustrated edition of A Dance with Dragons. – And Speaking of Subterranean, 3/5/2008
  • GRRM trying to finish ADWD by June 2008. – GRRM Comment, And Speaking of Subterranean, 3/6/2008
  • GRRM completes a Bran chapter that took him 6 years to finish.

    Well, I finished a chapter of the DANCE this morning. Which ordinarily would not be occasion for comment, but this was a Bran chapter that I’ve been struggling with for something like six years. Bran has always been the toughest character to write, for a whole bunch of reasons, but this chapter in particular was killing me.Anyway, that’s one done. (Unless I wake up tomorrow, reread what I’ve done, decide that I hate it, and tear the whole thing up. Which does happen from time to time).Now let’s hope the NEXT Bran chapter doesn’t take six years as well. – One More Chapter Done, 3/15/2008

  • GRRM reveals covers for ADWD (Ed. Note: The covers change later on) – DANCE Gets Covered, 3/17/2008
  • GRRM will be working on ADWD with hopes of delivering the completed manuscript by Summer 2008. – Home Again, 4/13/2008
  • GRRM admits he’s “pretty far behind.” – Better, 5/10/2008
  • GRRM finishes an Arya and a Sansa chapter. (Ed. Note: This Sansa chapter later becomes TWOW, Alayne I) He’s also making progress on Daenerys. – Home Alone, 5/23/2008
  • ADWD is not complete as GRRM embarks on European tour. – Made it to Europe, 6/25/2008
  • ADWD is late, and GRRM is frustrated that people are making off-topic comments about it on non-ADWD notablog posts. – A Gentle Reminder, 9/19/2008
  • GRRM writes a mega update on A Dance with Dragons. Some highlights:
    • ADWD is not done:

      No, it’s not done.Yes, I am aware that more than a year has passed since my last update. A lot of you have been emailing me to point that out. Thanks, but really, I did know. Unlike many of you out there, I got my copies of the Song of Ice & Fire calendar, so I knew what date it was.

      Good progress early in 2008, less so later in the year. Sansa moved to TWOW:

      I made a lot of progress on the book in the first half of 2008. So much so that I was optimistic that I would be done by the end of the year. Unfortunately, I did not make much progress on the book in the second half of 2008. Indeed, I made some regress. (That Sansa chapter I talked about finishing, for instance. It’s still finished, but my editor and I decided it belongs in THE WINDS OF WINTER, not A DANCE WITH DRAGONS, so it’s been moved into the next book. Sansa will not appear in DANCE.)

    • There are issues with the narrative (Ed. Note: Meereenese Knot most likely)

      Some of the reasons were literary, arising from problems in the narrative itself. I’m not going to discuss them here, because I really do not like talking about questions I am still wrestling with on a work in progress.

    • GRRM wants to finish by Summer 2009

      I am trying to finish the book by June. I think I can do that. If I do, A DANCE WITH DRAGONS will likely be published in September or October.

  • GRRM writes a rebuke to his detractors. – To My Detractors, 2/19/2009
  • GRRM is writing on a unknown POV character he’s hinted at previously (Ed. Note: Probably Quentyn Martell) – Thanks, 2/20/2009
  • GRRM’s writing pace picks up. – Feeling Feisty, 5/17/2009
  • GRRM reports making more progress on ADWD, finishing 3 chapters, but mentions the Meereenese Knot for the First Time on his notablog:

    I almost hate to say anything here, for fear of jinxing it… but for what it’s worth, the last six weeks or so have been the most productive period I’ve had on A DANCE WITH DRAGONS in… well… a year at least, maybe several. In the last three days I’ve completed three new chapters. Not from scratch, mind you, these were all chapters that had been partially written, and in some cases rewritten, for months if not years. But they’re finally done, and I’ve just reread them, and I’m almost convinced that they’re Not Crap.But I am making a small exception now because… well, I’m feeling rather jazzed right now, and for the first time in a very long while, I think I can see a glimmering that might just be a light at the end of the tunnel.Now if I can only slash through the Meereenese knot that I’ve been worrying at since 2005, I may actually start to get excited. – Guarded Optimism, 6/22/2009

  • GRRM is working on the Meereenese Knot. – Home Again, 7/17/2009
  • GRRM will probably read a ADWD chapter at Bubonicon. – Bubonicon, 8/27/2009
  • GRRM resumes work on the Meereenese Knot, re-arranging the order of chapters and weaving them back in together. – Dancing, 9/3/2009
  • GRRM reports that the Meereenese Knot could not be broken. – Jots and Niggles, 9/9/2009
  • GRRM shifts focus from Meereen and completes arc for a character who only has two chapters in ADWD. (Ed Note: Probably Cersei, though possibly Arya) – A Smidge of Progress, 9/11/2009
  • GRRM makes significant progress on ADWD, completing a Jon Snow chapter, passing the 1100 manuscript page mark:

    Finished a Jon Snow chapter, and have just passed the 1100 page (manuscript pages, the page count in the final printed book will be different) mark on A DANCE WITH DRAGONS. That’s counting only finished chapters in something close to final form. I have considerably more in partials, fragments, and roughs.Even with just the finished portions, DANCE is now longer than A FEAST FOR CROWS and A GAME OF THRONES, and I’m closing in on A CLASH OF KINGS. I do hope I can wrap things up before I approach the 1521 page length of A STORM OF SWORDS.Making a new run at the Meereenese knot, but maybe not tomorrow. I think I’ll hang around at the Wall a bit longer, and maybe visit Winterfell. – Dance, Dance, Dance, 10/6/2009

  • GRRM will do a reading at FargoCon (Ed Note: It’ll be “The Merchant’s Man”) – See You in Fargo, 10/14/2009
  • GRRM updates on the Meereenese Knot:

    Of course, I’m writing about Meereen, where the weather is hot and muggy, oppressive. If the snow keeps falling, I better take it as an omen, switch to a Jon chapter tomorrow.The good news: finished a chapter today.The bad news: it’s one I’ve finished at least four times before.This time, though, I think I finally got it right. We’ll see. Still whacking at the Meereenese knot.

    I took an especially vigorous hack two days ago, by switching to a new POV. It seems to have helped. Helps to have a pair of eyes on the inside rather than the outside here. And back story works better in recollections than in dialogue. (Ed. Note: Probably Barristan Selmy) – Dancing, 1/28/2010

  • GRRM has a good day writing about Jon Snow. – A Good Day, With Snow, 1/29/2010
  • GRRM upset that people think that because he had a good day writing he is done ADWD. – No, No, No, 1/30/2010
  • GRRM completes a Jon Snow chapter, heading to Meereen. – Don’t Go Wiggy on Me, 1/31/2010
  • GRRM working on Victarion and Arianne chapters (Ed Note: Arianne chapters later moved to TWOW):

    Instead I’m floating off the Isle of Cedars, or racing across the sands of Dorne. Warm places, both of them, with nary a flake to be seen. But I’d better not change horses. If I keep on keeping on, I should finish one of those chapters this week. Maybe both. – Snowing in Santa Fe, 2/3/2010

  • GRRM says that people might be able to read AFFC/ADWD if they can figure out the order. – GRRM Comment, Not Done Yet, 2/12/2010
  • GRRM finishes one chapter but has to make minor revisions to another chapter finished the week before. (Ed Note: This could be filed under TWOW as these chapters are likely TWOW, Arianne I & II) – Not Done Yet, 2/14/2010
  • GRRM makes significant progress on ADWD, finishes ADWD, The Iron Suitor, grapples with the chronology and whether to shift chapters to TWOW:

    The timeline of this monster is going to drive me mad. I know perfectly well that as soon as DANCE is published, some of you out there are going to attempt to correlate its chronology with that of A FEAST FOR CROWS, fit all the parts together to suggest an appropriate chapter order for a (hypothetical, and largely impossible) combined book, something like what the “Big Feast” might have been, before the split.Well, good luck with that. I’m glad you’re doing it, not me. With all these characters scattered over my entire world, some chapters that span hours and others many months, various journeys and voyages to account for, not to mention the demands of the dramatic chronology, an entirely different matter than the literal chronology… well, it may well make your head explode. It did mine. The DANCE timeline alone is a bitch and a half.Just musing aloud here, so don’t anyone get all hysterical… but depending on how long the book comes out, moving some of these finished chapters into WINDS OF WINTER may make sense. Structurally you could make a good case for making DANCE a perfect parallel to FEAST; different cast of characters, but exactly the same time frame, so both books end on the same approximate date. Then WINDS could pick up the action for both sets of characters the following day.That’s not the way I have been doing it, however. As written, I’ve covered the FEAST time frame in the first 800 pages (manuscript pages, the printed book pages will be different) of DANCE. Everything that follows is post-FEAST, so that’s where some of the cast from the last book start popping up again. Not the most elegant structure, I admit… but given how late this one is, I wanted to resolve at least a few of the cliffhangers from FEAST… (if only to set up the new cliffhangers). So…

  • GRRM wishes he could drop a hydrogen bomb on Meereen. – Wolves in the Night, 2/19/2010
  • The Meereenese Knot begins to fray. – The Meereenese Knot…, 2/26/2010
  • GRRM hits 1311 manuscript pages for ADWD. – The Green Light, 3/2/2010
  • GRRM says he might do some podcasts after ADWD is released much as he did for AFFC (Ed. Note: I don’t think he did any) – A Blast from the Past, 3/5/2010
  • GRRM is sick and vows to kill someone in ADWD. – Grey Days, 3/18/2010
  • GRRM back at writing ADWD. – Coming Soon to a Theater Near You, 4/27/2010
  • GRRM records a podcast on ADWD, TMK and GoT for Dragon Page. – Can’t Shut Me Up, 4/28/2010
  • GRRM is making progress on “King Kong” – More Odds, More Ends, 5/7/2010
  • GRRM is still wrestling with Kong. – Freaky Monkey Bites the Dust, 5/24/2010
  • GRRM works on the Epilogue for ADWD and then shifts focus to a Tyrion chapter.

    Meanwhile, I’ve been wrestling with Kong. For more than a week I’ve been pounding on the epilogue, but still can’t get it to gel. This morning I put that aside for a bit and went back to rewrite a Tyrion chapter, and that’s going much better. (Don’t get too excited over me mentioning the epilogue, please. I don’t always write these chapters in the order you read them. The epilogue will close the book, but it won’t be the last chapter written. For instance, the last chapter written on A STORM OF SWORDS was the Red Wedding). – Stuff and Nonsense, 6/16/2010

  • GRRM hopes that ADWD is the hardest book he’ll ever write. – Dancing in Circles, 6/27/2010
  • “Pat’s died a quick death.” (Ed. Note: This refers to Pat from Pat’s Fantasy List Blog who GRRM featured in ADWD as Ser Patrek of King’s Mountain who dies in ADWD, Jon XIII) – Snowbound, 7/21/2010
  • GRRM hints about writing Ironborn and Jon Snow in ADWD. – The Only Living Boy in New York, 7/25/2010
  • “Still a lot of story to tell.” – Lights, Camera, Action, 7/26/2010
  • GRRM finishes a chapter on “Fred” (Perhaps Theon Greyjoy), still has one more chapter to go for Fred. – A Few Odds, Some Ends, 7/30/2010
  • Since GRRM cut 100 manuscript pages to TWOW, GRRM thinks that ASOS will still be longer than ADWD. – GRRM Comment, Dancing, 8/1/2010
  • GRRM completes his last Fred chapter for ADWD, still working on Barney (Ed Note: Perhaps Barristan?) – Dancing, 8/1/2010
  • GRRM is having a good day writing a new POV Character who will slice through the Meereenese Knot (Ed Note: Barristan) – August, 8/4/2010
  • GRRM wraps up “Yogi” (Quentyn) for ADWD, has 8 POV characters complete, the Meereenese Knot is nearly cut. – Dancing, 8/7/2010
  • GRRM states that there are two more book after ADWD (he hopes). – GRRM Comment, Three More for the Show, 8/10/2010
  • GRRM rotates ADWD, Jon I in as his current sample. – Sample, Sample, 8/10/2010
  • GRRM working on Jon, Asha and Theon chapters in ADWD, finishing chapters, revising and then re-revising them. – Snow, 12/16/2010
  • GRRM wrestling with a pair of Krakens (Ed Note: Probably Theon and Asha, perhaps Victarion), hints of writing either a Bran or Jon chapter after he finishes writing the Ironborn. – Snowstorm on Skull Island, 2/15/2011
  • GRRM announces Publication Date for ADWD for July 12, 2011, but hes’ still working on ADWD. – DRAGON TIME, 3/3/2011
  • Current page count (as of March 2011) is over 1500 manuscript pages, but GRRM as more in partial or draft stage. – GRRM Comment, Good News for Old Blighty, 3/4/2011
  • Roy Dotrice will narrate ADWD. – Roy Sets a Record, 3/11/2011
  • GRRM completes an Ironborn POV, but then works on another. Total manuscript page count for ADWD is now 1551 MS pages. – He’s STILL a King in This World, 3/12/2011
  • GRRM finishes two short chapters for ADWD, manuscript page count over 1600. – KONG, 3/27/2011
  • GRRM finishes a chapter on Meereen. – Watch the Skies!, 3/30/2011
  • GRRM finishes ADWD. – Twas Beauty…, 3/27/2011
  • GRRM copywriting and proofing ADWD at Bantam with Anne Groell. – In the Apple, 4/30/2011
  • GRRM finishes copywriting and proofing ADWD. – Last Day in New York, 5/4/2011
  • GRRM releases ADWD tour date. – Taking the Dance on the Road, 5/7/2011
  • New UK cover for ADWD. – New Cover for the UK, 5/12/2011
  • GRRM announces that Barristan Selmy will become a POV character in ADWD. – The Wolf and the Lion, 5/13/2011
  • GRRM releases a mega-update on how ADWD was written. – Talking About Dance, 5/19/2011
    • By the end of the writing, ADWD was nearly 1700 manuscript pages (even after cutting 100 manuscript pages to TWOW in 2010). GRRM edits out about 80 pages through a process he calls “sweat” and cuts chapters to TWOW (see below)
  • Amazon breaks street date for ADWD and ships the book early in Germany. – Amazon Screws the Pooch, 6/29/2011
  • GRRM admits that his editors tried to edit out his use of “must needs”, but he likes the phrase and inserted it back into ADWD. – GRRM Comment, Back in Santa Fe, 7/18/2011 
  • GRRM defends his descriptions from ADWD, calling them “STORY.” – GRRM Comment, Back in Santa Fe, 7/19/2011
  • GRRM released limited illustrated ADWD illustrated by Marc Fishman. – The Dragons Dance Again, 11/1/2012
  • ADWD Paperback set to be released on 10/29/2013 – GRRM Comment, Coming Next Month, 2/13/2013

Dunk and Egg

The World of Ice and Fire, The Princess and the Queen and the Rogue Prince

The Winds of Winter

A Dream of Spring

Game of Thrones

Odds and Ends

Conclusion

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7 responses to “The Complete Notablog ASOIAF Resource

  1. JM

    Amazing job! Congrats

  2. Bigfan

    No pun intended, but we are waiting on Bloof Of The Conqueror, Pt 6!
    Great job by the way, as always!
    With kind regards!!!!

  3. Jud

    So if TWOW is going to be the same size as Dance, roughly 1500 pages, and he thought in spring 2015 he could finish it by the end of the year, shouldn’t he be very close to finishing TWOW? What is your professional take? He had to be nearly 2/3 the way done in spring 2015 to think he could finish in a year which would put his page count near or slightly above 1000. Add in a year of writing, even with it going bad and add 250 pages. Shouldn’t he be extremely close to the 1500 manuscript pages? Help make sense of how close to finishing he may or may not be. Thanks!

    • Let’s hypothetically say that GRRM was at 1200 manuscript pages for TWOW in May 2015. He’d be at he 2/3 count in total manuscript pages. However, look back at all the notablog entries for ADWD in 2009/2011. GRRM hit the 1100 manuscript page mark around late 2009, and the book was released a year and a half later.

      The thing is… in total, GRRM wrote over 1800 manuscript pages for ADWD. He cut 100 pages (5 chapters) to TWOW in 2010, editing cut down the total towards the end and more chapter cuts to the TWOW brought the total count down to 1510 manuscript pages.

      Now, also consider the amount of rewriting and restructuring that GRRM was doing for ADWD in the last year and a half. While it was not as bad as the early parts of the writing, see all the times GRRM talked about rewriting a chapter. One entry from 2010 indicated that the chapter he was working on was the 4th rewrite of that particular chapter.

      In his Winds notablog post, he indicated that he was struggling with major restructurings and rewrites for TWOW. So, while GRRM may not have struggled with the same plot points that he did in ADWD, he was dealing with many of the same writing issues as he did with ADWD.

      So, even if GRRM was 2/3 of the way to 1500, his track record would indicate that a) he will probably write more than 1500 manuscript pages b) Being 2/3 of the way done doesn’t mean that a TWOW release is right around the corner and c) He’s struggling with re-writes.

      Put it all together, and I don’t think that he’s extremely close. Given GRRM’s general sentiment about his progress, I’m not sure GRRM thinks the book will be on the shelves in 3-6 months.

      I think… and it’s just a guess… GRRM might be in the 6-9 month range out from submitting a manuscript, but that’s just a guess.

      I suppose we’ll have to see, but 1200 manuscript pages, while good progress, does not mean the book will be done in a month or two.

      • GypsyDRB

        If we get this book before Thanksgiving 2016, I’ll be happy. Would not surprise me that he’s just trying to get the book out before season 7 in spring of 2017.

        Im just trying to figure out if I’m going to continue watching the show or just buy the blu-rays for season 6 and beyond to watch after the books are done.

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